Talk:blame America first

Unfortunately, this is a very real phrase that is used constantly by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage.

I don't know about the regional tag. It's certainly limited to a group of like-minded individuals - I guess you could say the "don't blame America, they hate us for our freedoms" crowd since the term is often "the 'blame America first' crowd" - but they aren't limited to any geographical region.

Yes, it appears to be genuine, but as vile a phrase as it may be, it's not our place to label the users extremists any more than it's their place to label the people they're talking about unpatriotic. Globish 20:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It doesn't seem to be nearly as restricted as you suggest. It is surprising that it is hard to antedate the 1984 Kirkpatrick use.  I only saw one prior mention (that turned out to be mis-dated) on b.g.c.  --Connel MacKenzie 20:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does seem to be much, much older, in this sense, e.g. http://news.google.com/archivesearch?as_ldate=1901&as_hdate=1983&q=%22blame+America+first%22&lnav=od&btnG=Search / http://www.newspaperarchive.com/LandingPage.aspx?type=glpnews&search=%22blame%20america%20first%22&img=40318924. --Connel MacKenzie 20:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

RFD discussion: April–September 2020
Sum of parts, no? Blame + America + first. There could be a number of different insinuations depending on the speaker's intent. Not particularly lexical IMO. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, obviously. --Lambiam 10:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: SoP; no idiomatic meaning. — SGconlaw (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: One odd thing I discovered is that we have America Firster but not America First. If this is deleted, America First needs to be created. Purplebackpack89 14:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily. Political parties and companies etc. are usually something for Wikipedia, so we have e.g. Netscaper but not . We do seem to have a habit of including particularly well known companies and parties though. Maybe WT:BRAND issue. Equinox ◑ 14:33, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * America First is a movement, not an established political party, and "blame America first" is a tongue-and-cheek reference to that movement. Purple</b><b style="color:#991C99">back</b><b style="color:#C3C">pack</b><b style="color:#FB0">89</b></b> 23:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * According to our entry, the term refers to an adherent of the marginal isolationist (1943–47), subsequently absorbed into the antisemitic . I think it is more commonly used for a member of the popular but short-lived  (1940–41), which did not survive Pearl Harbor.  --Lambiam 08:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree with Lambian. I am going to modify the definition. <b style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#3A003A">Pur</b><b style="color:#800080">ple</b><b style="color:#991C99">back</b><b style="color:#C3C">pack</b><b style="color:#FB0">89</b></b> 18:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW, I took the plunge and created America First. <b style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#3A003A">Pur</b><b style="color:#800080">ple</b><b style="color:#991C99">back</b><b style="color:#C3C">pack</b><b style="color:#FB0">89</b></b> 19:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as stated. Tongue in cheek usage is not automatically idiom generating. "That's a great coat" said with an eye-roll can be tongue in cheek. <i style="background:lightgreen">bd2412</i> T 04:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & BD. --Uisleach (talk) 17:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 02:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)