Talk:burgerlijk ongehoorzaamheidje

RFV discussion: January–March 2020
Dutch. An unattested diminutive of a mostly uncountable noun. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  12:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't play strong on the verification of regular diminutives as that could be an endless and valueless effort. There are findable examples for "ongehoorzaamheidje", hence "burgerlijk ongehoorzaamheidje" is plausible. Morgengave (talk) 12:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether unattested diminutives should be included is a rather controversial topic. I am personally okay with displaying those that aren't durably attested but do see a few dozen actual online uses or more. This barely shows any hits on a regular Google Search. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  10:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * may be countable, but is uncountable. Doesn’t the same hold for  and ?  --Lambiam 23:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't. Dimunitives in Dutch are rather complex; in this case it changes the meaning of the noun to an "act" or "instance". A "burgerlijk ongehoorzaamheidje" would be a (small) act or instance of civil disobedience. Morgengave (talk) 01:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's a particular property of the diminutive for nouns on -heid, many of which are mainly uncountable but can have countable meanings of "instance" or "act" (as you say). But the diminutive can function like a singulative for certain collective nouns. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  10:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * We have other diminutives like this ... my personal favorite is aansprakelijkheidsverzekeringetje which I asked about a few years ago on this page. — Soap — 01:17, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * RFV-deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC)