Talk:cast a pall

cast a pall
Our entry for pall omitted the definition "a sense/feeling of gloom", which I've added.

That definition of pall occurs as subject of verbs like descend, came over, settle, fall, hang, not just as part of cast a pall. No OneLook lemmings follow us in including this.

I will shortly add a usage example for some form of 'cast a pall'. I suggest that this be made a redirect to that definition. DCDuring TALK 01:44, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Pall appears after verbs like be, throw, put, set, spread, keep, leave in expressions fitting the new definition. DCDuring TALK 02:20, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It also appears after prepositions. IOW, it is a normal noun in this sense appearing in a range of usages that should clearly show that there is no idiomaticity to cast a pall. DCDuring TALK 02:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. - -sche (discuss) 17:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 16:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

RFD discussion: August–September 2021
This was deleted in 2014. See Talk:cast a pall. The redirect (casts a pall) is confusing, and links to an entry with 4 different etymologies. Yes, it can be used with other verbs, but checking recent corpus data shows it's 95% "cast a pall" with little variation. Merriam-Webster has an entry for it. – Jberkel 08:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Not only Merriam-Webster, but also Macmillan, Cambridge and Collins. I think an undeletion is in order. PUC – 15:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Undelete, agree with above. Q. Is throw shade a related term? Cheers, Facts707 (talk) 10:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think so; cast a shadow would have roughly the same meaning as cast a pall, but throw shade is more about insulting someone rather than being gloomy or depressive. —Tcr25 (talk) 16:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Undelete. DonnanZ (talk) 16:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Undeleted. Have at it! DAVilla 12:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)