Talk:church

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Why did the k sound shift to tsj in English and Frisian but not in the other languages?


 * It also shifted in some other languages. Even though the spelling might be with a k, the pronunciation can still have changed. Swedish kyrka, for example, is pronounced /ɕʏrka/. This is a very common sound shift and examples may be found in many language groups. Latin k-sound shifted to ch before e and i in Italian. K in Modern Greek has shifted to ts before e and i sounds. It is seen in Slavic languages, American Indian languages, Asian languages, African languages. It’s common. —Stephen 16:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Derived terms from Chambers 1908
Unsure about pluralisability and capitalisation: "church militant, the church on earth in its struggle against evil; church triumphant, the portion of the church which has overcome and left this world." Equinox ◑ 01:54, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Alternative meaning
It's also used as an affirmation that something's true, as an adjective or an interjection. "This video game is the best!" "Church." or "I've had a better burrito in my life; that's church". —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:29, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

"For the vowel evolution, see bury" under additional etymological information
This doesn't seem right. "Bury" has an original [y], but in "church" [i] is original. Even though it did have [y] in Greek, it was adopted into Germanic with [i] because the word passed through Latin (or Greek with a Latin accent). So there must be more to it. 78.55.74.253 13:37, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: Or because Germanic didn't have [y] at the time. 90.186.83.227 22:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion to move kirk from Synonyms to Alternative forms
I suggest to move kirk and all the related words currently labeled as synonyms (e.g. kirkyard in churchyard) to the Alternative forms subsection, as the etymologies of kirk and church converge and they also sound recognizable. --GareginRA (talk) 10:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)