Talk:cikán

RFV discussion: March–December 2017
There are 3 meanings in this Czech entry, but the last two need verification. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 07:46, 5 March 2017 (UTC) The RFV-ed senses: Both senses seem present in, which, however, is no attesting quotation for WT:ATTEST purposes. In particular, the senses seem to be "tulák, dobrodruh" and "lhář, podvodník, zloděj". Attesting quotations could be sought in and. The latter source of quotations contains various non-literal uses but I do not see ones specifically in the above senses. I seem multiple uses of "cikán" to refer to child, perhaps a loud child. If someone wants to give it a try, they may. User:Jan.Kamenicek or User:Droigheann? --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:21, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * (informal) A gypsy (itinerant person), a vagabond.
 * (informal) A liar or a thief.
 * There can be found examples for the verb in both senses "to wander from one place to another" and "to lie", but I also failed to find any quotation attesting the senses for the noun . --Jan Kameníček (talk) 09:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * One problem is that wading through the quotations found by the above sources is a lot of work. Many of the quotations are for the literal sense of Gypsy, so it takes a lot of patience to fish for the rrelatively rare figurative senses if they exist. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I remember that in my youth I occasionally heard a parent tell their child "Ty jsi ale cikán" meaning "a liar", but I doubt it ever appeared in print. --Droigheann (talk) 19:19, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * RFV failed, then.__Gamren (talk) 17:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC)