Talk:climenole

RFV discussion: June–September 2022
Appears to be a nonce word that has not been used outside the one quoted source (where it is arguably a mention, not a use). &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * , (Congressional Record!), . Probably more could be found. I think the first one at least definitely counts as out-of-universe use in the desired sense. 70.172.194.25 18:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * All of these seem to be in the context of the original work and not independent usage. - TheDaveRoss  19:54, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The first one mentions the original work but then uses it in an out-of-universe context. 70.172.194.25 01:18, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If I say, for instance, "My dog Soba is a devious dog, my neighbors dog is just like Soba. There are Sobas the world over eating pies off of windowsills." The later "uses" of Soba are not independent of the original, they rely on the context for understanding. If I bring up Gulliver's Travels, and then talk about climenoles in that work, and then use them as an analogy for something more broad, that doesn't mean that the term has become independent. It actually is evidence that it isn't independent, since the writer felt the need to provide the context before using the term. Compare Romeo, which does not need the context of Shakespeare or Juliet to be understood to mean a "young male lover, possibly star-crossed". All of these passages refer to Swift and/or Gulliver. - TheDaveRoss  12:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)


 * RFV-failed. Equinox ◑ 08:38, 15 September 2022 (UTC)