Talk:communis

Etymology
Per : --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * AHD:common does not trace any further, except to IE root mei-; see also The American Heritage Dictionary Indo-European Roots Appendix: mei-.
 * M-W:common directs the reader, for, to mean, in which and  are given as a list of akins, but  is not expressly traced to.
 * etymonline.com:common does not trace to ; it does not mention  at all and instead mentions.
 * Collins:common does not trace to.
 * Latin and Proto-Indo-European dictionaries safely refer communis to munus etc. and all from *mey- (to exchange). But, since communis is adjective, the adjective munis (as if 'partaking') could be its direct source and of immunis. -GuitarDudeness (talk) 10:51, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you please name the specific dictionaries which indicate that stemms from (as opposed to is merely related to), with year of publication, and ideally with links online as far as possible? --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * One more piece: Rejzek 2001:komuna (a Czech etymological dictionary) indicates that is from the same source as, without indicating direct derivation from . --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I added AHD: mei- above. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * -GuitarDudeness (talk) 12:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And yet L&S:communis says "adj. con and root mu-, to bind; Sanscr. mav-; cf.: immunis, munus, moenia, ...". It follows that L&S dos not say that communis is from munus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:55, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nor does the linked Pokorny say that communis is from munus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And yet L&S:communis says "adj. con and root mu-, to bind; Sanscr. mav-; cf.: immunis, munus, moenia, ...". It follows that L&S dos not say that communis is from munus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:55, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nor does the linked Pokorny say that communis is from munus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


 * For the record, De Vaan 2008 also asserts origin from . His comments are: All words are based on two stems, *mūnos- and *mūni- 'function, obligation'. A mūniceps is one who 'takes an obligation', commūnis 'who partakes in the duties'. The i-stem in the adj. could in theory have been created in Italic after adjectives such as inermis 'unarmed'; on the other hand, G[ermanic] shows the same compound in Go[thic] gamains. Munis can be a back-formation to communis. mellohi! (僕の乖離) 21:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * In the above quoted text, I find no location that says or suggests that is from . --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:41, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this. -GuitarDudeness (talk) 02:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Reconstructed with *-ū-?! Despite Old Latin co(m)moinis, moenus, etc.? Weird. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 21:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)