Talk:concert T-shirt

concert T-shirt
Is this really all that idiomatic? Atelaes 07:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * And is it even a "concert T-shirt", or just T-shirt sales at a concert? Junk . DAVilla 15:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak keep, as a particular thing that can convey quite a bit about a character, not exactly sum-of-parts (or is it, really?) --Connel MacKenzie 00:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Sorry, but I'm completely undecided on this one.  --Connel MacKenzie 04:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Definitely "sum of parts" but maybe idiomatic nonetheless. Is it for wearing at the concert? Does it advertise the concert? Change to weak keep. DAVilla 23:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, because have you ever seen a concert T-shirt at the Met? bd2412 T 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you ever seen a high-end computer at a flea market? DAVilla 23:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's idiomatic in the sense that there might be some cultural background, yes. But, as I've said before, we simply cannot explain every cultural background which might be present in a combination of words.  Keeping phrases like this will lead to something completely unsustainable.  However, it appears I'm in the minority on that.  Atelaes 05:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not just about culture, it's about physical substance. Say I go to twenty different rock concerts, and to each one I wear exactly the same blank lime green T-shirt. At the end of the concert season, I hang that blank shirt on the wall next to a shirt which happens to feature a band logo and a list of dates and locations from one of their tours. Which one meets the definition of "concert T-shirt"? bd2412 T 18:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Delete. Widsith 11:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm ambivalent Delete if currency cannot be demonstrated. You can buy lots of things at concerts (concert program(me)s, concert souvenirs), and that there are lots of types of T-shirt (Rolling Stones T-shirt, XL T-shirt, baby's T-shirt). This looks like just an example of an attributive use of "concert".


 * However, if this is the name specifically used for one of those T-shirts you often see that has a band's name and tour dates on it, then keep. &mdash; Paul G 18:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * My point above is that "concert t-shirt" invokes a particular type of concert, specifically a rock concert. You don't wear a concert t-shirt to hear an orchestra play Vivaldi, although if you said you were going to a concert (as opposed to specifying a "rock concert" people would likely presume that you meant a performance of classical music. Also, if Mick Jagger wears a t-shirt while performing in a concert, that would not automatically be considered a concert t-shirt; what distinguished the concert t-shirt is 1) the association with a rock concert (or some other equally modern and informal genre), and 2) information on the shirt itself identifying the band, tour, tour dates, etc. bd2412 T 20:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Citations:


 * 1) Anthony Swofford, Exit A: A Novel (2007) Page 13:
 * 2) *She chose black knee-highs, a Catholic-schoolgirl skirt, and a black concert T-shirt.
 * 3) Tina Basich, Kathleen Gasperini, Pretty Good for a Girl: The Autobiography of a Snowboarding Pioneer (2003) Page 9:
 * 4) *I bought a Go-Go's concert T-shirt and wore it to school the next day and thought I was so cool.
 * 5) Sujata Massey, The Floating Girl (2001) Page 215:
 * 6) *"While you were on the train, did you see a young foreign man wearing a Porno for Pyros T-shirt anywhere?" I remembered Alec and the concert T-shirt he had worn to the Gaijin Times meeting that morning.
 * 7) Robert S. Chang, Disoriented: Asian Americans, Law, and the Nation-State (1999) Page 114:
 * 8) *He was right, but I wondered what tipped him off—my Asian features, or my black concert T-shirt from Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA tour.
 * 9) Mel Odom, Sabrina Goes to Rome (1998) Page 38:
 * 10) *Owen's outfit remained basic black, but the concert T-shirt was new and bore the name of a band Sabrina had never heard of before, Great Big Sea.
 * 11) Debra Mostow Zakarin, Too Cool for School (1997) Page 133:
 * 12) *She put her bag on the table and pulled out this amazingly cool black Band X concert T-shirt.
 * 13) Matthew Rettenmund, Boy Culture (1996):
 * 14) *And yet here was a brilliant kid at a first-rate school somewhere in the Midwest wearing a Blondie concert T-shirt.
 * 15) Lisa D. Campbell, Michael Jackson: The king of pop (1993) Page 224:
 * 16) *The other houses a poster of Michael in a white shirt and yellow vest and a concert T-shirt from the Bad tour.
 * 17) Joe Gores, Wolf Time (1990) Page 205:
 * 18) *He wore his hair in a single ponytail down his back, with a U-2 concert T-shirt under a trendy Italian linen jacket with the sleeves folded back the obligatory single turn.

Notice how many of these describe a concert T-shirt as being from a particular band or even a particular tour? bd2412 T 04:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I disagree with Ateglen's "thin-edge-of-the-wedge" assertion. You can't (reasonably) call it a "rock concert t-shirt" without evoking laughter.  The component word "concert" is an idiom for "rock concert."  Since you can't separate "concert" from "t-shirt" and still convey that idiomatic sense, I once again vote "weak keep."  --Connel MacKenzie 19:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)