Talk:counter

counter attempt in derived terms? 216.19.183.88 07:08, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What?? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 07:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Missing noun sense
The definition is missing a noun sense that means 'a counter attack' or 'a move to counter the opponent's move'

You can find lots of hits on the www with the search terms "a counter to" or "a counter against":
 * Marines use a counter to a front choke when the opponent approaches from the front and uses both hands to choke a Marine around the throat.


 * A counter to grade inflation


 * The app, Am Yisrael Buy, is a counter to the apps of the boycott movement, which identify Israeli-made products for those wanting to boycott the country.


 * NATO needs a counter to Putin's new tactic [...]

I'm not sure which etymology it falls under, so I hope someone else can add it. --88.113.162.167 13:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As we have it, etymology 3. Though etymology 2 looks to be the same within reason. Etymology 3 is just the same thing but via the prefix counter, which is from Old French and Latin etymons. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Probable Wrong Noun Placement
I believe that the noun meaning surface, and possibly others, belong to the etymology relating to contra, which would probably refer to something that things are put against, as a surface, and not to the etymology relating to the meaning compute. This does not seem to have any likely relation to a countertop. However, I am not sure about this. 174.125.237.64 03:27, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well the sense of a tabletop for counting money is almost certainly derived from just count + -er. In this case the words have been spelled the same for hundreds of years, so    we'll never    *really* know, but I find the current explanation to be more simple since the other sense of     counter isnt commonly used as a standalone noun. — Soap — 00:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

RFC discussion: January 2017–February 2021
The noun definitions of etymology 2 are duplicated in etymology 3. It's also questionable whether they are truly separate etymologies. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Resolved, RFC template no longer present (and no such thing as etymology 3 on that page anymore). &mdash; surjection &lang;??&rang; 21:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)