Talk:delightion

RFV discussion: April–June 2016
I don't think this meets CFI at all. Three citations have been given, which are non-durable Web sources (I think) and which seem to refer to the same buzzword from a single corporate enterprise. Probably mentions rather than uses. Equinox ◑ 14:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The three sources are certainly durable: Two are the New York Times the other is Terry Gross' radio show on NPR "Fresh Air" The audio is durably archived. I think it qualifies as a hot word? 1,700 hits on Google, so it's likely to spread. SageGreenRider (talk) 16:48, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by a "hot" word? A one-day wonder? Donnanz (talk) 17:01, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I mean this policy Appendix:Glossary SageGreenRider (talk) 17:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree that the sources look durably archived, but unfortunately they are not independent—of the four on the citations page, three are written by Dan Lyons and the other is quoting him. So we still need two more citations to keep this, even as a hot word. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 17:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * OK. If the consensus is to delete, please userfy and I'll continue to monitor as more book reviews come out. The book was only published a few days ago.SageGreenRider (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I found some more and added them. The Cox Business one in 2013 does not relate to the Dan Lyons book but it does relate to HubSpot. Not sure about durability. There was one in 2012 about Italy (Lake Como) but it doesn't look durable. Not sure.SageGreenRider (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I basically agree—currently, the only citations on the citations page that don't appear to come from Lyons are Dharmesh Shah, Rebecca Graves, and Jackelin J. Jarvis. None of these three appear to be durably archived, and moreover the Shah citation is a mention, not a use. So we still need two more citations. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 19:49, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * OK. By the way, is there a help desk where in can ask a question about WT:ATTEST. I don't understand it. It says As Wiktionary is an online dictionary, this naturally favors media such as Usenet groups, which are durably archived by Google. but most of the internet is equally durably archived at archive.org and elsewhere, so why can't those sources be used too? Just curious... Any pointers appreciated. Found it Tea room SageGreenRider (talk) 00:10, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I found one more. Managing Startups: Best Blog Posts, "O'Reilly Media, Inc." ISBN 9781449370503 and added it. 2013. Durably archived collection of postings. One is by Shah. Talk to SageGreenRider 12:51, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * RFV failed: all of the durably archived citations ultimately come from either Dharmesh Shah or Dan Lyons, so we don't have three independent durably archived citations. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:56, 30 June 2016 (UTC)