Talk:don't change a winning team

RFD
Is not necessarily about a "team" (or is it?). Equinox ◑ 20:08, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * (Wiktionary) DCDuring TALK 21:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you're being too rigorous here. It's defined as a synonym of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", so there might not be any team, group, or anything. It might just be, say, a piece of software. Then where is the team? Equinox ◑ 05:41, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as beyond sum of parts if it is synonymous with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That synonymy seems false to me. At best its relationship is as a parallel, not a synonym, for an essentially animate, person-specific entity, of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", which normally refers to things viewed as inanimate (a machine; an organization or part viewed as having interchangeable people as components). "Teams" and "people" are not normally called "broke" (in this sense, anyway) and aren't "fixed" in this sense except in the context of medicine, psychology, or social work. And machines and systems are not normally evaluated as "winning".
 * IOW, the current definition should be considered sloppy, offering "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" as a definition, when it belongs under "See also" or "Coordinate terms". It leaves us failing to perform the basic function of a good dictionary. Other arguments should be found to support inclusion, such as, perhaps, the expression's function as a coordinate term. DCDuring TALK 14:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, but perhaps revise per Dan. Pur ple back pack 89  23:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: Transparent, not considered a proverb, similar to many other non-proverbial expressions that substitute mess with for change (Yes, there are equivalent senses.) and other nouns besides team and side, such as formula, strategy, game, stroke, swing. DCDuring TALK 22:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 13:48, 21 September 2015 (UTC)