Talk:energia eolica

energia solare
All are SOP: the meaning in English is in each case the literal translation. --Lambiam 11:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Can't the same be said for English and other languages? Canonicalization (talk) 12:11, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Not for English – for example, “solar energy” could also have meant the energy produced by the fusion process in the Sun’s core, about 384.6 YW, and not the tiny fraction that reaches Earth in the form of sunlight; also, the meaning of the English terms is not a translation – but, indeed, in most cases for many other languages. But not always; for example,, the equivalent of , literally means “durable energy”. Because of such exceptions, I think the English terms are defensible as translation hubs.  --Lambiam 16:51, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Couldn't your case for "solar energy" be applied to "energia solare"? Ultimateria (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Anyone can readily see that “energia solare” means “solar energy” in English; we do not need the entry for that. If someone doesn’t know what solar energy is, they may have to look it up. The notion that “energia solare” needs an entry just like “solar energy” because it could also have meant something else, should naturally lead to the conclusion that its definition needs to be rewritten:
 * Noun
 * 1. energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation emitted from the Sun; especially that part of this energy that is converted into usable thermal or electrical energy by humans.
 * --Lambiam 23:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. I hate to be the one to trot out the slippery slope, but there are several thousand multiword entries in Romance languages that could be deleted by the same logic. Perhaps we need to add more concrete rules for non-English terms to the Idiomacity section of CFI, disallowing "literal translations" of English, after first deciding what that means. Ultimateria (talk) 17:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's a grey zone. I've been creating some similar entries in French, but that's one of those cases where I'm not sure I should. Canonicalization (talk) 17:15, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's a grey zone. I've been creating some similar entries in French, but that's one of those cases where I'm not sure I should. Canonicalization (talk) 17:15, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep all - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 21:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck per our previous discussion. Imetsia (talk) 20:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd say delete as well. But I do agree it's a grey zone and that there may thousands more similar entries waiting to be deleted. So maybe we should take the discussion to a more public place like the Beer parlour or hold a vote or some such. MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 07:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. (Btw, duurzame energie is better translated sustainable energy, renewable energy is hernieuwbare energie.) ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  17:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as set phrases. In addition, I think the English equivalents stand on their own merits and not merely because they're translation hubs. And lastly, the slippery slope argument is persuasive. Imetsia (talk) 19:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong keep all per Imetsia. AG202 (talk) 22:20, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

RFD-no consensus. --Fytcha (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I think this should be closed as RFD-deleted (even though I voted to keep). I count four delete votes (including the nom) and two keep votes (excluding Dentonius, as we typically do). But I think this is an example of a deletion nomination that hasn't aged well. In light of some more recent RFD's, if the vote were held today, I imagine most (including Lambiam) would vote to keep. I've nominated a number of pages on the same rationale used here, and they were upheld at RFD. Imetsia (talk) 20:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that we exclude Dentonius from voting on RFDs. I closed it because I interpreted the result to be 4 delete vs 3 keep. I've struck my result now; feel free to close it yourself however you deem best. --Fytcha (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, ✅. Imetsia (talk) 20:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk) 20:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)