Talk:fflwyr

Needs to be deleted
I can't find a credible source for this plural form. The singular was also misspelt (now fixed), so I'm not sure where the original creator got their information from. Llusiduonbach (talk) 21:25, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The plural form does show up on this online dictionary: https://geiriadur.uwtsd.ac.uk/index.php?page=ateb&term=fflwr&direction=we&type=all&whichpart=exact&search=#ateb_top. It also shows the singular for without that circumflex. It's not evidence of actual usage, but it's something...


 * I was also able to find a usage at the following link, but it doesn't look like it's being used with the same definition... https://journals.library.wales/view/2250754/2259998/15#?xywh=-250%2C0%2C2099%2C2428 "Gorchfygwyd y gelynion gan Dafydd a'i fflwyr."  – Guitarmankev1 (talk) 13:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks for looking it to that. Unfortunately Geiriadur Prifysgol y Drindod Dewi Sant does contain the occasional odd form or mistake (like the lack of circumflex here – when the dictionary was put together, circumflexes on ⟨w⟩ were harder to input). The most reliable, up-to-date dictionary, Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru, doesn't list a plural, even a historical one. The quote from the other link is "filwyr", soft mutation of milwyr "soldiers". Llusiduonbach (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

GPC
Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru contains no reference for this word, and it not listed as a plural form of 'fflŵr'. GPC is a historical dictionary and contains words with as little as one attestation; the fact that there is no reference for this certainly suggests, as noted above by others, that this form does not exist.

Also, it is not grammatically consistent. 'Fflwyr' could only be a plural for 'fflŵr' is it were formed of 'ffl' [not a word] and 'gŵr' [man]: this would obviously not make sense.

RFD discussion: December 2021–January 2022
Tagged but not listed ( by ). --Fytcha (talk) 00:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to RFV, discussion at Talk:fflwyr shows that its existence is questioned. —Mahāgaja · talk 15:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Moved to RFV: WT:RFVN &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 02:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

RFV discussion: January 2022–January 2024
Moved over from RFD ( by User:Llusiduonbach): Requests_for_deletion/Non-English &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 02:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. —Granger (talk · contribs) 16:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)