Talk:fin dall'inizio

RFD discussion: October–December 2020
Italian SOP as "since the beginning." Imetsia (talk) 00:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 03:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Question: what PoS is here? Also, is the meaning not a rather more emphatic “right from the start”?  --Lambiam 19:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's used to specify/emphasize that the means "since," as opposed to "from" or "by." In many cases, context will make that distinction clear, but the  sometimes needs to be used if it's not so obvious. For example, take "fin dall'industrializzazione" (clearly "since industrialization") and "dall'industrializzazione" (ambiguous; either "from [the period of] industrialization" or "since industrialization"). It's really part of the prepositional phrase, which we should probably add as an entry. Imetsia (talk) 00:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can one say fino dall’inizio, or is the apocope mandatory? --Lambiam 12:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Both are completely fine. The apocope is not mandatory. Imetsia (talk) 13:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The fact that the question above had to be asked means that this is something which the fin dall'inizio page should probably convey to readers ... - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 15:12, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've added a short usage note. SemperBlotto (talk) 06:34, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. In any case it's SOP. Ultimateria (talk) 22:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. —Mahāgaja · talk 06:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Robbie SWE (talk) 14:41, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk) 18:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)