Talk:fuck shit up

RFD discussion: April 2024
entry is very SoP, and anything can be substituted, such as fuck stuff up, fuck crap up, etc., newfiles (talk) 18:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If that was the case, we would have a sense for this at fuck up, which we don't. I would also like to know if there are attestations for fuck stuff up or fuck crap up having the same declarative intentional meaning (which is very different from the "fuck things up" sense of mistaken action). To the extent that variations exist (in the way that fire truck and fire engine can both exist), I would posit that "fuck shit up" is the lemma, and bowdlerizations are back-formations. bd2412 T 03:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * We do have a sense for this at, i.e. sense 2. Why isn't it enough? PUC – 16:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * QED. newfiles (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This is not sense 2, "To botch or make a mess of", because that implies mistake leading to an undesired and unintended consequence, and can apply on a minimal scale (e.g., if I type a document and I misspell a word, I have "fucked up" that word, not caused chaos). This phrase specifically represents an intentional effort to achieve the outcome of causing a substantial effect. It is the opposite of the typical meaning of "fuck up". Put more directly, if you "fucked up", you did bad; if you "fucked shit up", you did good. bd2412 T 01:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Your last sentence sounds rather like a contrived distinction imo, but if intentionality is what you're after, then sense 3. "I'm gonna fuck you up" and "I'm gonna fuck your life up" and "I'm gonna fuck shit up" are the same sense, aren't they? PUC – 16:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Fuck someone up requires an object of the phrase; fuck shit up, even though shit is a noun, implies generalization. bd2412 T 04:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. We might want to reword the senses at though. PUC – 16:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, clearly SOP. Lunabunn (talk) 00:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: If not kept, this should be redirected to the appropriate sense of fuck up as a common collocation. bd2412 T 21:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to . It’s common enough for somebody to look it up. —(((Romanophile))) ♞ (contributions) 06:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * See also fuck it up RFD'd P. Sovjunk (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)