Talk:gabaliya

RFV discussion: October 2018
Definition: The cite in the entry seems to be the only occurrence in Google Books or Groups referring to an article of clothing. There is a word in Arabic derived from the word for mountain that is used for the mountain Bedouins, and there's also a place name, but those are capitalized. The ar added by User:Metaknowledge in 2013 is still in the entry, so it's hard to tell if this has any basis in the original language, or if it's a simple transposition error in the book (for galabiya) that got missed because it's the correct transliteration for a real Arabic word. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) A type of clothing common in the Middle East.
 * I note that there are a huge number of alternative forms of, including "galabea, galabeah, galabia, galabiah, galabieh, galabiya, galabiyah, gallabea, gallabeah, gallabia, gallabiah, gallabieh, gallabiya, gallabiyah, gallabiyeh". However, there's nothing in the form gabaliya. Looks like it might be erroneous. — SGconlaw (talk) 07:38, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I too bet that it is a simple transposition error as is common enough for words stemming from unrelated languages (such as albigondas for ). In the context, is a perfect fit.  --Lambiam 08:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don’t think we would want this word even with more quotes. The people who gave that distortion into print would roll eyes hard that they are at fault for such a dictionary entry.
 * As nobody has yet mentioned it, the original is . does not exist as a clothing-name, what would a “mountain-gown” be anyhow? It is uncommon in other languages too, like "mountain gown" in English or “Bergkleid” in German which latter seems to be something but is also rarely used (the definition here is “a type of clothing common”, so it is just a corruption). Fay Freak (talk) 12:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Theoretically, items of clothing are sometimes named after the peoples who wear them (afghan and cravat, for instance), so a garment worn by the Gabaliya might be named after them. That's why we needed to hear from someone who speaks Arabic. Chuck Entz (talk) 12:41, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Isn’t that generally by a different people than the one where the demonym comes from? cravat didn’t arise in Serbo-Croatian and Serbo-Croatian borrowed the clothing-name in a different foreign form. Of course like there could never have been a word  for a widely-used clothing name it is hard to imagine that where there is a tribe there could arise a clothing name .  isn’t used in Berlin and the surrounding area. Sometimes we know that a word that does not exist (non-existence being often not easy to know) because its existence would clash with another word. Fay Freak (talk) 13:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Looks like bad judgement on my part, years before I had even touched Arabic. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 16:37, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedied then: evidently created in error. Equinox ◑ 18:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)