Talk:gender reveal cake

RFD discussion: September 2020–January 2021

 * brief prior discussion in the Tea Room

I'm unsure whether gender reveal is idiomatic, but I believe this is SOP regardless: there are also "gender reveal smoke bombs" (which give off pink or blue smoke), "gender reveal balloons" (which are pink or blue, or are full of pink or blue smoke), etc, besides "gender reveal parties" / "gender reveals" themselves. And besides cakes that are pink or blue, which the current definition refers to, a Google Image search also shows white cakes with hollow centers containing things like coloured M&Ms, and gender-reveal "surprise cakes" where a mechanism pops a hollow tube up out of the top of the cake, containing something to indicate gender. - -sche (discuss) 18:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. SOP for a cake that serves the purpose of revealing a gender. bd2412 T 01:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, and gender reveal itself also seems SOP, as a reveal of gender. PseudoSkull (talk) 02:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I would think that gender reveal could get a bit more leeway since in practice it is specifically used with respect to revealing the gender of an unborn baby, as done by the parents, to the public or to people in their circle. When the doctor or medical technician tells the parents what the baby will be, this isn't called a gender reveal. A cake or a balloon or whatever would just be the device used to announce this, however. bd2412 T 02:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well you have a point there. PseudoSkull (talk) 02:45, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. A reveal is a dramatic device, not just an instance of revealing. It's a sort of unveiling, a surprise. Just telling someone isn't a reveal. You have to make a show of it. In various types of makeover shows on reality TV you have the before/introduction, the main part where they show the makeover being done, and the finale is the reveal, where an audience, or whoever the makeover was done for, gets to see the results for the first time. More often than not someone is brought in blindfolded to make their reaction more dramatic. At least that's what I remember from when I used to watch that kind of thing a decade ago. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , that's still only part of the equation, isn't it? After all, any editor in this discussion could, through some dramatic means, "reveal" their gender, but that still wouldn't be a "gender reveal" in the commonly understood sense of the gender being that of an unborn child. I recall seeing a comedy bit where the comedian said they went to a gender reveal party, the joke being that it was the adult partygoers who were revealing their gender, with some being a surprise. bd2412 T 19:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd say the comedy bit means that a "gender reveal" party is not distinct from the meaning of its words yet; it just happens that gender reveal parties are for unborn children, because when else would it make sense?--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Pat? bd2412 T 01:22, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete the cake. Not sure about gender reveal alone.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:06, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Copied from the earlier Tea room discussion: The common meaning of the compound noun gender reveal is “”. This is just like is short for “baby-shower party ”. However you analyze it, gender reveal cake is SOP.  --Lambiam 08:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete but create gender reveal Purplebackpack</b><b style="color:#FB0">89</b></b> 20:58, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. FWIW, my take on the SOP-ness or idiomaticity of "gender reveal" is that I have never once in my life heard this phrase until very recently, yet I immediately understood what it meant, without any need for explanation. Mihia (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 18:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. J3133 (talk) 18:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete --DannyS712 (talk) 04:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

gender reveal party
Per above. J3133 (talk) 10:12, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as SOP now that gender reveal has been created, and the sense is just gender reveal party. <i style="background:lightgreen">bd2412</i> T 19:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP, as above. - -sche (discuss) 15:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 18:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete --DannyS712 (talk) 04:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Both RFD-deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)