Talk:get stoned

RFD discussion: June–October 2020
SoP? SemperBlotto (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The present definition, "get intoxicated ..." is weak, since it repeats the word "get". Noting that we also have get drunk, with two senses "To intoxicate oneself with alcohol" and "To make drunk", while "Don't get drunk tonight" is also given as a usex for the sense "become" at get, and the sense "To cause to become" at get would cover the second at drunk. The only faint potential argument against pure SoP that I can see for get stoned and get drunk is that, in one sense, one does these things deliberately to oneself. Compare e.g. get sick. However, there are many uses of "get" with this connotation even in the "intoxicated" realm, e.g. get smashed, get mullered, get hammered, not to mention e.g. "I'm going to sit by the fire to get warm", so I would say delete all of this type, except if "translation hub" applies, which it may well do at get drunk, and also, if necessary, enhance something at get. Mihia (talk) 17:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as SoP. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * + past participle of . I'm not even sure that there is a way to show that is an adjective, though  shows that there are plenty of lemmings that are willing to go alone with the gag and say it is. DCDuring (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Isn't the fact that you can "get very stoned" evidence that it is an adjective in this expression? Mihia (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as SoP. Equinox ◑ 07:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a deletion discussion at Talk:get drunk, which was kept. For translations, we can use get drunk. One could use a CFI override and say that since there is a rare single-word synonym bedrink, we will keep get stoned (much more common than bedrink) even if sum of parts. . The classic lemmings have neither get drunk nor get stoned:, . --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * get drunk and get stoned have different meanings (the first almost always refers to alcohol, the second usually doesn't). But get high makes a good translation hub. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point; get stoned differs in meaning. And you are right that get high should do as a translation hub. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * FYI, I have changed the relevant definition at get from "To become" to "To become; to cause oneself to become", with examples "I'm getting hungry; how about you?" and "I'm going out to get drunk." This is because I feel there is a slight difference in the use of the verb in those two examples. Mihia (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That edit seems unfortunate: in a definition, the form "A; B" means A and B are synonyms. And "cause oneself to become" seems to mean something slightly different from "become", and therefore, it would seem incorrect to indicate it to be a synonym on the same definition line. Alternatively, I am wrong and "A; B" means that A and B are near-synonyms and that sometimes slight variations of senses are grouped on a single definition line. Since that is nowhere specified, AFAIK, good luck to all of us. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:12, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Originally I was going to make a separate definition, but then I thought this might seem to be making too much of a meal of it. However, I would not object if it were split into two separate definitions, if people prefer that. Mihia (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I've more often seen things like this grouped with "or" (see ), so I've switched to that rather than a semicolon, although "become" by itself seems to cover "going out to get drunk" fine. - -sche (discuss) 19:51, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't you think that become (in the sense relevant here) usually describes something that is brought about by external factors, rather than something that one deliberately chooses to do? Mihia (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. - -sche (discuss) 19:51, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Compare get high, get drunk, get buzzed, get wasted. I think these are all SOP. It's probably worth keeping get high and get drunk as translation hubs, no need to keep/create any others. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:21, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. I agree with Mx. Granger. PUC – 10:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Granger. --Uisleach (talk) 20:56, 3 July 2020 (UTC)


 * RFD-deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)