Talk:give someone a lift home

RFD discussion: March–June 2023
2. ought to be enough. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:33, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete! Equinox ◑ 15:35, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It's an ostensibly useful phrasebook entry and not covered by anything else at Category:English phrasebook as far as I can see. I'm not sure about the particular choice of phrase though: the "someone" presupposes knowledge of pronouns in the given language, and something more situationally specific like can you give me a lift home might be better (compare the stuff already at Category:English phrasebook/Travel). —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 16:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Anyone, as a kind soul, could give someone a lift anywhere. This is too specific. DonnanZ (talk) 17:14, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete under that form, SOP; abstain on or similar. PUC – 10:39, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a phrasebook entry, according to policy SOP considerations don't apply. I can see other arguments for deletion but SOP shouldn't be one of them. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 12:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "SOP Shouldn't be one of them" arguments should also apply to . DonnanZ (talk) 14:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't see the relevance I'm afraid since isn't a phrasebook entry, or even a plausible one. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying beyond repair is a phrasebook entry, it's a set phrase; what I was trying to say is the SoP argument is used as a reason for deletion all too often, to the detriment of the project, and there are cases where it shouldn't be applied. I'm not against phrasebook example entries, this one may need tweaking though. DonnanZ (talk) 16:48, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it's a phrasebook entry; just putting the phrasebook template on it doesn't make it one. Otherwise I could tag any entry like this and say SOP no longer applies.  PUC – 15:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You could, yes, and the point is that we'd then need to discuss whether it's appropriate for the phrasebook and not whether it's SOP, since the claim being asserted is precisely that it should be included by phrasebook standards and not by SOP standards. The discussion then ought to be about whether it's appropriate for a phrasebook entry, and I don't see how "give someone a lift home" can be dismissed out of hand—seems like a very plausible use case for a phrasebook, though my preference would be for a more specific sentence like I mentioned above. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All right, I've revised my vote a bit. IMO, the lemmatized form should be dismissed out-of-hand as a phrasebook entry; the title you suggested, which is a plausible utterance, certainly would be more appropriate.
 * As for what does and does not belong in the phrasebook, or where the phrasebook itself belongs, that's a discussion that would take us too far and which I'm not willing to take part in right now, so I'll abstain. I simply hope workable criteria can be found and it won't end up as a free-for-all. While I don't really have a problem with, I'm much less convinced about . PUC – 16:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * As we don't have any well-articulated standards for what is includable as a phrasebook entry, perhaps we should see whether any phrasebook covers an expression based on give/get and lift. We may have to rely on phrasebook lemmings/authorities until we can agree on our own standards. DCDuring (talk) 18:24, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. If there is a SOP phrase to be defined about giving lifts, this is not the form. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 19:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


 * RFD failed - to be deleted Zemely Nashka (talk) 07:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)