Talk:gnascor

RFV discussion: May–June 2023
Latin. I found zero hits for #gnasc on the PHI Latin texts corpus, and no other dictionaries that have an entry for this form. (It's obviously etymological, but I question whether it has attested historical use.) De Vaan's entry for the verb is headed "nāscor, nāscī 'to be born' [v. III; ppp. (g)nātum] (Pl.+)"; that is, it shows the option of gn- in the PP stem but not in the present stem, and Ernout and Meillet puts a star before it, saying "ancien *gnāscor; le g initial est encore conservé dans les formes substantivées du participe : gnātus, gnāta". It's clear that the spellings gnatus/gnata were used for the nouns "son" and "daughter", but it's not clear to me whether they were really used for the verbal participles in the paradigm of, as we currently state; Ernout and Meillet's wording seems to imply rather that they were not. Can anyone find a citation illustrating participial use? An added complication is that, as pointed out at the entry for, this participle can be viewed as originally belonging to the paradigm of rather than of .--Urszag (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. I did not find any examples, and I did find a passage that explicitly states that Gnaeus, gnarus, gnatus, gnavus, gnoscere, gnobilis constitutes an exhaustive list of Latin lexemes that have attested spellings starting with ⟨gn⟩ (András Cser, "Aspects of the Phonology and Morphology of Classical Latin" (2016), §11.2, page 195). There do seem to be some uses of gnātus as a participle meaning 'born'; I think the best way to treat these is to follow De Vaan's strategy of listing gnātus as an alternative perfect participle of .--Urszag (talk) 19:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)