Talk:have butterflies in one's stomach

RFV discussion: July–August 2021

 * 1) To experience a certain “fluttery” physical sensation in a person's stomach, associated with nervousness, uncertainty, anxiety, or apprehension.
 * 2)  To be nervous, uncertain, or anxious.
 * 1)  To be nervous, uncertain, or anxious.

RFV sense #2 as distinct from sense #1. While we might argue whether the definition should be "to experience a fluttery sensation associated with nervousness" or "to feel nervous in association with a fluttery sensation", in this context, #2 can, in my opinion, only be interpreted as meaning "To be nervous, uncertain, or anxious, without any association with a 'fluttery' feeling in the stomach." I think we need positive verification that one can have "butterflies in one's stomach" without an association with a stomach feeling, not simply citations that don't specifically mention the physical sensation in additional words. Noting that the present examples demonstrate no difference in meaning and could as well be interchanged. See also Tea_room/2021/June. Mihia (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 00:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC)