Talk:haydayıcı

RFV discussion: December 2013–June 2014
Allegedly a Turkish word meaning "driver". Looks unattested. . Even finds almost nothing. Driving regulation: WT:ATTEST, probably "use in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year (different requirements apply for certain languages).", with the emphasis on permanently recorded media. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

When this fails, don't forget to remove the term from the translation table at driver. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

There are citations above (under the rfv for "sınalgı"):
 * "Elinde uzun kamçı bulunan haydayıcı ön sıradaki atın kulağı dibinde kırbacını ..." İstanbul'da Tramvay - Tramvayların Tarihi by Fehime Tunalı Çalışkan and Zikrullah Kırmızı (1998)
 * "takırtıları, nal sesleri, kırbaç şaklamaları, haydayıcıların çığlıkları, emir erlerinin, askerlerin, subayların küfürleri geliyordu" Harp ve Sulh (L. Tolstoy's War and Peace volume: 1, translated by Zeki Baştımar and published by Turkish National Education Ministry)
 * There is a Google result from Cumhuriyet newspaper which published in 20 June 1939 (page: 8) and there is a crossword question as "hayvan haydayıcı". --193.255.55.80 08:40, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

This word means "coachman" more than "driver". --193.255.55.80 08:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I can find the 1st quotation at http://zkirmizi.110mb.com/ISTANBUL_TRAMVAY_TARIHI.htm =dead link, a random website that is not a permanently recorded media (see again WT:ATTEST). The other two quotations I cannot find on the web at all, whyever. As for the number of citations required by CFI, Turkish is listed at Criteria for inclusion/Well documented languages and thus has as stringent criteria as English. Turkish has over 80 000 000 native speakers per Turkish language. Given the currently provided quotations for attestation, I propose future outcome "RFV failed", since the quotations provided do not meet the "permanently recorded media" criterion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:41, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Try to search by Google in Turkish. --88.251.207.167 15:56, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I propose this RFV be closed as failed; if you agree, please do the closure in boldface etc. The would-be citations are also available at Citations:haydayıcı, marked there as "not durably archived" per my assessment. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Failed. — Ungoliant (falai) 01:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)