Talk:healthspan

healthspan
Straight out of MacMillan's BuzzWords. 72.200.200.69 16:26, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Or did they copy the word from us? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * From the MacMillan page: "This article was first published on 11th July 2005." Page history of healthspan lists its creation date on July 25, 2005. If you look through some of the user's other contributions, it seems he copied some other terms verbatim from MacMillan, though somebody seems to have edited a lot of them. 72.200.200.69 16:36, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I didn't spot that. I was looking for a date and I couldn't find one. Thoughts? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nuke it, and anything else he originally copied. The terms themselves might be actual terms, but wouldn't any entry be a derivative work? 72.200.200.69 16:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Deleted, and recreated with . Thanks! —Ruakh TALK 17:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Dug up citations attesting usage since 1992. Astral (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant that the definition text was a copy-paste of Macmillan's. 72.200.200.69 22:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, and it's a good catch on your part. But the ideal solution, in my eyes, to finding verbatim plagiarism of another dictionary's definition here on Wikitionary would be to rewrite or remove the definition, and then to bring it to RfV if you think it might not meet the criteria for inclusion. But I don't see grounds to completely delete entries for terms that have appeared on MacMillan's BuzzWords — with terms that were already coined and in use before they appeared on that site (as I showed with healthspan), MacMillan would have a copyright on their specific definitions, but couldn't copyright the terms or their meanings. Astral (talk) 23:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I should add I don't see an issue with hiding the page versions with the copyvio, just with the complete deletion of this entry, for the reason explained above. Astral (talk) 23:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sometimes the one entails the other, since hiding page versions means concealing who added what. —Ruakh TALK 12:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: My identity
I should mention that I was SnoopY and that I was also the person who RfD'd this page on grounds of copyvio. Brownie Charles (talk) 21:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)