Talk:ilman että

RFD discussion: April–August 2023
Finnish. SOP +. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 20:20, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Verbatim translation would be "without that". It's not self-evident that it translates simply as "without" into English, IMHO. --Hekaheka (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The difference is grammatical, not lexical. The same sentence could be written as . Really, the literal translation of the given usex would be "Is it possible to develop mining industry without that harm is caused to the environment?" (which is ungrammatical, but still). From the standpoint of Finnish, it's just + a subordinate clause, which is qualified by . &mdash; S URJECTION  / T / C / L / 19:47, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Same construction exists in many languages, and as Surjection says it's just ilman + clause. Thadh (talk) 11:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * RFD-deleted &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 21:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)