Talk:in the year of our Lord

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in the year of our Lord
= in + the year of our Lord. DCDuring TALK 19:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 07:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, redirect. --Mglovesfun (talk) 11:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect is fine, but somebody should take a look at the page year of our Lord. if I find it rather cryptic it must be incomprehensible for most non-natives. And is it really an adjective? --Hekaheka 02:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I'm losing confidence. This is basically a set phrase, the calque of Anno Domini. The exceptions to its setness involve enhanced piety, appending epithets to "Lord". They are relatively rare AFAICT. DCDuring TALK 02:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * It seems that "year of our lord" is seldom if ever used without a designation of a number of year in one form or other. It is the name of a band and it appears in a song title and in the lyrics of a song, but these are the only examples of independent usage which I was able to find. In addition to "in", at least the preposition "of" may be used as in: "Today is the first day of the year of our Lord, 2006!" Other elements may be included as "in the good year of our Lord 1991". Thus, the original SoP claim may be valid, but I repeat my question: what is year of our Lord's POS? --Hekaheka 15:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The claim of =Adjective= in the entry year of our Lord can only AFAICT be supported if a sentence like The year of our Lord 1096 saw tragedy along the Rhine is cast as {{The year of our Lord}=ADJ {1096}=N}=NP etc., which I think is nonsense: the correct way to cast it would be {{The year}=NP {of our Lord}=PP}=NP [viz] {1096}=N etc. (MHO.) So the year of our Lord would be a =Noun=. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 18:56, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * How would you parse "The year of our Lord 1323, there was a truce taken between the King of England and Robert de Bruce, King of Scots..."? DAVilla 15:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1323 and year of our Lord would seem to be apposites, each an NP. DCDuring TALK 18:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think modification of year of our Lord by a determiner (this/that) as in |that+year+of+out+lord%22&btnG=Search+Books#sclient=psy&hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22this|that+year+of+our+lord%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=5b281ec2d808a&biw=1260&bih=588 these numerous examples from bgc is conclusive that year of our Lord is an NP, as years are not normally modified by determiners. DCDuring TALK 18:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, they're definitely noun phrases at some level, but how can a noun phrase modify an entire clause? Are they together not acting as an adverbial phrase? Is it an ellipsis of sorts? DAVilla 06:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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