Talk:kap

Etymology of the Hungarian term
Kiss's Etimologiai szótár describes this as a possible onomatopoeia. That explanation works well for other words mentioned in that entry, like, but semantically, an onomatopoeic explanation for doesn't make as much sense to me: the action described is less obviously connected to a sound.

I note a striking semantic and phonological overlap with 🇨🇬 and derivative. Looking at the daughter languages, a Germanic derivation seems unlikely, since the initial shifted to  for that family. However, the initial hard persisted in other languages that proto-Hungarian speakers may have been in contact with, such as 🇨🇬 or (geographically less likely) 🇨🇬. There's also 🇨🇬 as reflected in modern 🇨🇬. While Turkic is not part of the PIE family, I note that there was a branch of PIE speakers (the w:Afanasievo culture) in the vicinity of the Proto-Turkic urheimat, leaving open the possibility that 🇨🇬 may be related to 🇨🇬.

Would there be any opposition to mentioning these in the etym here at 🇨🇬, at least as comparanda? And are there any Hungarian etymologists who discuss these similarities? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The etymology dictionaries only mention the onomatopoeia, the clicking sound of suddenly closing the mouth and the teeth. The earliest meaning was probably " snaps at ". See . I'm not sure about mentioning the above items, wether they are they really connected to this word. Maybe someone else with a deeper etymology knowledge can answer that. Panda10 (talk) 17:39, 8 June 2022 (UTC)