Talk:kind

Second etymology: from kine (oops! incorrect)

 * Edit title. —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

I’ve added the second etymology (from kine, “cattle”), and removed the (idiomatic) tag, as the usage has a legit (non-idiomatic) etymology, albeit an unfamiliar one.

Nbarth (email) (talk) 01:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

This disagrees with the etymology for "in kind" shown at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_kind. Davidwbulger 03:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks David! You are correct, they disagree – and, further, the “cattle” etymology (from kine:) I gave is incorrect (it’s a folk etymology); the Latinate (calque of in specie:) given at in kind: is correct. I’ve corrected this entry, given an (OED) reference at in kind, and summarized in a discussion at “in kind” talk page. Thanks again!
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

What kind of (a)
According to Garner's fourth edition With this phrasing, the a in what kind of a is typical of uncultivated speech --Backinstadiums (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

unmarked plural
Historically, kind is an unchanged or unmarked plural noun like deer, folk, sheep, swine. Sort of has been influenced by the use of kind as an unchanged plural. --Backinstadiums (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

quantity
We don’t have that kind of money! --Backinstadiums (talk) 09:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Creationist sense
I'm not sure if this is too specific to mention, since it's covered by the more general sense 1, but there is a sense of "kind" in creationism synonymous with the neologism baramin. 70.172.194.25 12:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

RFV discussion: February–April 2022

 * One's inherent nature; character, natural disposition.

Removed / moved to Middle English by Astova. J3133 (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely exists in modern English, although OED labels it "now rare" and mainly northern/Scottish in later use. This, that and the other (talk) 09:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 02:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 05:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)