Talk:lay something at the feet of

I have just added this entry. It is readily attestable, with more than 50 hits at COCA. -- DCDuring TALK 16:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Is this an idiom or a mere metaphor?
 * 2) Should it be included?
 * 3) Should it be presented at "lay (something) at the feet of" with the existing entry a redirect?
 * In comparison with the stuff that we have, this does just fine, i.e. looks sufficiently idiomatic to me. --Hekaheka 18:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

lay at the feet of
This should be moved to lay something at the feet of, IMO. "Something" is a placeholder you can obviously substitute specific things for, just like you can "cross a friend's path" rather than only ever "crossing someone's path" — and as in the entry "cross someone's path", a placeholder is necessary here, because without one, "lay at the feet of" sounds intransitive: yet "the dog liked to lay at the feet of his master" isn't what the entry is about. - -sche (discuss) 21:13, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * We are not consistent in including something/someone as a placeholder. If we had a rule, we would want a placeholder for something like this where there is potential for confusion, but I don't think the rule should just be "avoid confusion" in a massive enterprise like this.
 * Move per nom. DCDuring TALK 00:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think a potentially confusing title should be reason enough to include a placeholder. We can (and should) clarify its use with  next to the definition (which is already done in this case). Longtrend (talk) 18:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Moved. - -sche (discuss) 22:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)