Talk:leonced

lionced
Just mentioned in some old heraldry books Wonderfool69 (talk) 12:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * All I've found so far is mentiony, e.g. that crosses which terminate in lions' heads are denominated crosses leonced, although it's possible a dedicated search would find real uses. - -sche (discuss) 00:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Every occurrence of either spelling I can find is a mention and not a use; it doesn't seem to be real. Indeed, Julian Franklyn, Shield and Crest: An Account of the Art and Science of Heraldry (1963), pages 138-9, says "'a cross lionced', that is, a plain cross, the end of each limb terminating in a lion's face, seems to be a literary invention only, for though one may read of them, and see them illustrated, none can be found in practical use on either an ancient or a modern achievement." Some fanciful lion things do exist, e.g. the use of lions' heads as a lion of partition seems to be real (using dogs' and bears' heads as lines of partition is also found on historical heraldry), but not this, AFAICT. I also checked for modern, online uses in e.g. SCA blazons and found nothing there, either. - -sche (discuss) 21:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 19:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)