Talk:let freedom ring

RFD discussion: April–June 2015
I'm surprised this never got RFDed, as the definition is somewhat misleading — it's really just a quote comparable to the case of Talk:Gott ist tot. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * While I am not familiar with this phrase being used in the way described, I did find a few examples which may be of value. From the Congressional Record of the 107th Congress
 * Mr. DAVIS of Illinois.
 * In response to the devastation caused by the terrorists, the residents of Chicago have joined with millions of others in this country and around the world to donate millions of dollars and hours to the rebuilding efforts. Their material gifts, however, reveal an even deeper resolve to let the principles of freedom for which we stand ring loud and clear...
 * Mr. MEEKS of New York.
 * ...We must preserve that democracy. What happened on September 11 of last year threatens that democracy. We must let freedom ring.
 * As I reflect and think, the words of Dr. King came back to me, where basically he was just talking about freedom . In 1965, we were talking about freedom basically just here on these shores. His words were, ``So let freedom ring from the prestigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mountains of New York...
 * There are a number of similar instances in the Congressional Record. This may have some traction, I am on the fence. - TheDaveRoss 12:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Why would we have this? We're not Wikiquote and it has no lexical value. Renard Migrant (talk) 15:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I suppose for the same reason we have know thyself; at some point certain famous quotations become proverbs, idioms, maxims, etc. The question here is whether or not this particular term has reached that point. - TheDaveRoss 16:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as a famous quotation, not a definition. Equinox ◑ 15:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per Equinox. Wikiquote has this. bd2412 T 20:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a kind of a slogan like let a thousand flowers bloom. It means something like "Don't legislate or regulate on this matter".
 * Does it? I don't think it means that in My Country, 'Tis of Thee, and I don't think it meant that when Martin Luther King, Jr. said it. bd2412 T 20:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course not. The original meaning is the object of allusion. The favorable emotional associations of the use in the anthem are what all of the alluders are attempting to appropriate for their message. I don't think too many current users of the expression are alluding to MLK Jr, nor that his followers often quote that particular expression of his. As you must know, freedom has been more or less appropriated by conservatives in the US and justice and progress by the left, so one does not hear regular invocation of freedom by the left. Efforts such as FDR's to create a leftist rhetoric of freedom (the ) have not been as successful as the popular rhetoric of justice, as in the current no justice, no peace. DCDuring TALK 22:06, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that the references from the 107th Congress above mean anything more than the MLK sense either. bd2412 T 13:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 21:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)