Talk:liquid hydrogen

liquid hydrogen
SOP. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 20:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, any element that is normally gaseous can be described as 'liquid', such as liquid oxygen or liquid nitrogen. You wouldn't normally refer to 'liquid water' as that's liquid most of the time. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm Special:PrefixIndex/liquid. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm okay with deleting liquid helium etc. On the other hand, there are a finite number of elements. DAVilla 12:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Doesn't have to be elements mind you, anything that can have a liquid state can be described as 'liquid'. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course, but if we wanted to make exceptions, it would be easy to do for just element names. (Continuing the trend of pointing out the obvious, hydrogen here is a molecule, not an element, but they're named the same for good reason.) I don't see any particular reason to make exceptions though. DAVilla 08:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a little off-topic, but how strange is liquid natural gas!? DAVilla 15:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete You may not normally refer to 'liquid water', but has thousands of hits, even excluding the mishits. SOP.--Prosfilaes 20:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. There are too many things here. Liquid hydrogen (along with other similar elements and compounds that are normally found as gasses) are not simply in liquid form. The expression implies also the low temperature and the pressurisation, and containment. The definition needs to state these facts, or it is not a complete defenition. Therefore the entry is a long way from being a simple sum of parts. -- A LGRIF  talk 20:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I know what you mean, but burnt wood implies that it was previously on fire, so what? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. Re: "The expression implies also the low temperature and the pressurisation, and containment": I think it only implies that because that's the typical case. It's easy to find examples where the hydrogen is not at high pressure, or not under containment. In fact, the exact phrase alone gets a dozen b.g.c. hits. Low temperature is pretty much a given — in fact,  gets thousands of hits (which, incidentally, is further evidence against your "pressurization" claim, since the phrase only makes sense if there is an implicit pressure assumed, and I think that said implicit pressure is nearly always one atmosphere) — but as far as I'm aware that's an encyclopedic fact, not a lexical one. N.B. I am not voting "delete". I haven't seen any compelling evidence in favor of keeping, but I'm still not sure. —Ruakh TALK 22:29, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Liquid water is not simply in liquid form; it only comes that way in very narrow range of temperatures, 100 K at one ATM. Liquid foo, for all foo, implies a certain range of temperature and pressure.--Prosfilaes 18:26, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Considerations of manufacture and containment are not necessary to the definition. It is simply the case that hydrogen is liquid within certain ranges of temperature and pressure. — Pingkudimmi 01:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. &mdash;Internoob (Disc•Cont) 20:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

deleted -- Prince Kassad 20:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)