Talk:lucky bastard

RFD discussion: May–October 2022
Possible SOP. This doesn't seem to be any different than collocations such as lucky boy, lucky sod, lucky prick, lucky fucker, stupid bastard, ugly bastard, greedy bastard etc. Pious Eterino (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Though we do include lucky devil, lucky dog, lucky duck (may be a different case as it contains a rhyme) and lucky duckling. Pious Eterino (talk) 14:53, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I think it should stay because it is not the literal sense of bastard that's being used here .... no one would think it means the target is an illegitimate child .... and therefore not truly sum of parts. — Soap — 17:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's one of the usage examples of sense 4 of . 70.172.194.25 19:14, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've definitely heard "lucky bastard" intended in a negative way, but I don't really feel like it means someone with astoundingly good luck. It's just a bastard (in whatever sense) who is lucky (whether generally or transiently). Theknightwho (talk) 19:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I notice the "astounding(ly) good luck" phrasing is used in a lot of these entries, e.g. lucky dog, lucky devil, but my sense is like yours, that the luck can be general or transitive, so we should probably reword any of these that we keep. - -sche (discuss) 16:20, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: SoP: "bastards" also can be jammy, silly, etc. Equinox ◑ 16:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. gits can also be jammy and I wouldn’t support the creation of jammy git. Overlordnat1 (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep feels a lot more lexicalized that the ones mentioned. AG202 (talk) 17:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, both parts are substituted copiously which is a strong SOP indicator, crazy bastard, lucky son of a gun, etc. - TheDaveRoss  17:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as SOP. —Svārtava (talk) • 12:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per TheDaveRoss. - -sche (discuss) 08:31, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as this is an idiom, not closely related to the meaning of bastard. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:55, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See sense 4. - TheDaveRoss  13:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - can be used with any sense of and  which can be applied to people. Theknightwho (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Abstain: This is for bastard sense 4: "(often humorous) A man, a fellow, a male friend." finds no standard dictionaries. I feel like this is a lexical unit, but I have no idea where that feeling comes from and how it should be justified. Is the fact that "lucky" would automatically pick sense 4 of bastard relevant? : lucky leads but crazy is also high-frequency one. This can be deleted by now, meeting the unofficial threshold of 2/3 (and some even support lower thresholds). --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleted - TheDaveRoss  15:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)