Talk:madem ki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin

MADEM Kİ ERMENİSİN İSTEMEDEN VERMELİSİN!, Ayşe Arman, "Akademik yaşantıdan gına gelmişti", Hürriyet Newspaper 07/14/2002. "Madem ki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin mantığı ile saldırıyorlar. Kan istiyorlar" diye konuştu." (quotation from Sevan Nişanyan's speech, he is originally Armenian and he has an etymological Turkish dictionary), "Şirince'de yıkım başlıyor", Radikal Newspaper, 02/16/2011. "Mademki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin!” Arkadaşım, ne anlama geldiğini pek de bilmeden, bunu bir tekerleme gibi söylediklerini nakletmişti bana." ,Orhan Kemal Cengiz, "Mademki Ermenisin", Radikal Newspaper, 11/28/2011.

You may search by google for other variants: "Madem Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin" (without postposition "ki"), "Madem ki Ermeni, istemeden vermeli" / "Madem Ermeni, istemeden vermeli" (these are 3rd person singular form). --88.251.31.80 10:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

madem ki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin
MADEM Kİ ERMENİSİN İSTEMEDEN VERMELİSİN!, Ayşe Arman, "Akademik yaşantıdan gına gelmişti", Hürriyet Newspaper 07/14/2002. "Madem ki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin mantığı ile saldırıyorlar. Kan istiyorlar" diye konuştu." (quotation from Sevan Nişanyan's speech, he is originally Armenian and he has an etymological Turkish dictionary), "Şirince'de yıkım başlıyor", Radikal Newspaper, 02/16/2011. "Mademki Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin!” Arkadaşım, ne anlama geldiğini pek de bilmeden, bunu bir tekerleme gibi söylediklerini nakletmişti bana." ,Orhan Kemal Cengiz, "Mademki Ermenisin", Radikal Newspaper, 11/28/2011.

You may search by google for other variants: "Madem Ermenisin, istemeden vermelisin" (without postposition "ki"), "Madem ki Ermeni, istemeden vermeli" / "Madem Ermeni, istemeden vermeli" (these are 3rd person singular form). --88.251.31.80 10:58, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Add the quotes to the page formatted according to WT:QUOTE and with translations so we can judge whether these are acceptable uses. --Vahag (talk) 13:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is an idiom that I heart from people (but in the form "Madem ki Ermeni, istemeden vermeli") and see on the internet. This idiom may have two meanings: While you are Armenian, you should put out for someone without/before asking for it (in sexual meaning) or While you are Armenian, you should give someone without/before asking for it (in general meaning). As a Turkish speaker, I am not sure about the meaning of the 1st and 2nd quotations (that is, it may be in both sexual and general meanings). The third quotation seems to be exactly in sexual meaning. Because, there is a sentence after this: "Bu arkadaşım otuzlu yaşlarında, Türkiye’nin en iyi okullarında okumuş; bu ‘tecavüzcü’ tekerlemesi onun diline nasıl sirayet etmiştir dersiniz?" He calls this idiom as a "raper tongue twister". --2001:A98:C060:80:FC46:74A8:2F80:D9B3 12:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 23:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)