Talk:makier

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Old French: to do, to make. My three best sources don't have it, the Trésor de Langue Française lists as the etymon of modern French  but without any citations for it. Because it's a verb, it's going to be pretty tough to find, assuming it is out there, because of the variety of conjugated forms. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:21, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right, something is off. Some cite Old French, as the actual etymology of , while others cite it as from Old North French , from Old Dutch . I believe if it came directly from Frankish , it would have arrived in Old French as , but I can't find any attestations to this form. --Victar (talk) 21:00, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Maquier and maquer wouldn't really be distinct, as the -i- disappears in many of the conjugated forms. I wouldn't be surprised if makier, maquier or both were out there somewhere, but we have plenty of time to find them (minimum of 30 days). Mglovesfun (talk) 21:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * My fourth best source http://gallica.bnf.fr/ only has makier and maquier in etymologies, not in actual running text. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't find any variation of the word in my Anglo-Norman sources. --Victar (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * A Google Books search using "makier" and "etymologie" turns up several sources. It appears the word is actually Old Picard (a dialect of Old French?). The scribal use of k being indicative of Old Northern French dialects prior to the wholesale switch to qu? Leasnam (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Doing that same Google search, I am unable to find a sense that matches the sense that is currently being verified (to fake or counterfeit vs to do). However, I have found two expressions that seem to match: (to be a hypocrite) and  (to make a speech). — Xavier, 21:17, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 14:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)