Talk:mater

RFV discussion — failed
RfV-sense for “abbreviation of: material; materials”. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 18:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * [This b.g.c. search] suggests use in bibliographies for journal names. Not in OneLooks as abbreviation.
 * BTW, is "mother" sense really "formal"? I think of as a UK public-school, class thing. DCDuring TALK 19:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As, as undefined:, or elsewise? Seems like a strange way to abbreviate it to me; and undefined: seem more intuitive to me (and they’re shorter). But hey, if it’s verifiable, add dem cites!
 * The OED agrees with you; I’ve added that context to the entry. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 16:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * We have a few hospitals here (Australia) called Mater, but their full formal name is Mater Misericordiae which I belive is "Mother of Mercy" in Latin.--Dmol 23:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * See quotes at mater. "Formal" tag removed. DCDuring TALK 00:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ƿidsiþ added an sense meaning “the womb” to the entry in this revision; the OED also has it, but its two supporting quotations are unconfidently dated ante 1425 and ante 1475, which makes them both Middle English (the boundary between Middle English and Early Modern English being circa 1470). This information exists in the entry for undefined:’s Middle English etymon,. Consequently, I have requested verification of this sense, which means that it needs supporting quotations that are clearly post the Middle English–Early Modern English divide — i.e., preferably from the sixteenth century or later. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 16:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * After four months, no citations have been presented either for obsolete sense of “the womb” or for the abbreviational sense of “material(s)”. RfV-senses failed. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 20:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

French Section Needs Cleanup
The sense of "(slang) to ogle, to check out, to watch (e.g. an attractive person)" should be part of a separate verb according to the TLFI.

I don't see any dictionary give the sense of (archaic) to kill

RFV discussion: October 2020–January 2021
French. Sense: “(archaic) to kill”. Tagged by Languageseeker today, not listed. 130.132.173.134 added a comment on the talk page on 5 October (“I don't see any dictionary give the sense of (archaic) to kill”) and a RFC tag on 6 October (“The TLFI has the slang definition as a separate entry. Neither give the sense of to kill”). J3133 (talk) 19:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * It's used in Norman French, e.g. Robert Atkinson's 1876 edition Vie de Seint Auban: A Poem in Norman-French has "mater v. tr. to kill. infin. 121 par humme cuvint descumfir e mater", but I haven't spotted anything in modern French. Convert the entry to ==Norman==, I'd say. - -sche (discuss) 01:13, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * RFV-deleted and converted to Norman. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)