Talk:mentonnière

James Robinson Planché's Illustrated Dictionary of Historic Costume: From the First Century B.C. to C. 1760, Courier Corporation (2003, ISBN 9780486423234), page 367, says ...but this distinction is not maintained in practice AFAICT, with either term occurring for either type. - -sche (discuss) 21:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * MENTONIÈRE. A chin-piece, sometimes confounded with the beaver, its purpose being similar. It differed from the beaver in its not being attached to the helmet, as the latter was, and which also worked up and down upon a pivot or screw, while the mentonière was fastened to the breastplate or placate, and, like the hause-col, protected the neck as well as the chin,