Talk:nello stesso momento

RFD discussion: October–December 2020
Italian SOP for "in the same moment." Imetsia (talk) 00:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 03:48, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * What is the argument for keeping? Is this not a SOP? --Lambiam 19:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's an SOP. Maybe it's not an SOP. Who knows? Some people are saying it's an SOP. But I know others who are saying it's not. I know it's a useful term. ;-) -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 20:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Apparently useful term is a useful term. I wonder why we have no entry on it. --Lambiam 13:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * . Wow, you actually took me on. I agree that "useful term" is an SOP, Lambian. As pointed out, I have a different view of what I want this dictionary to be like. This dictionary helped me to learn a lot when I was still just a reader. (It's still helping me a lot now). It always frustrated me that you had to work so hard to figure out what useful multi-word expressions meant. For popular languages, I'd just go to some other bilingual dictionary if it was a multi-word expression and I didn't have time to click around here. I just can't accept the conservatism here when it comes to what should be in this dictionary. This dictionary is gold and it shouldn't be crippled for the sake of "editorial practices." - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 14:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Some editors may be too restrictive to my taste as well in applying the idiomaticity criterion, but we cannot hope to provide entries for all multi-word phrases that might baffle some language learner. There are also the phrases nella stessa casa, nello stesso istante, nello stesso libro, nello stesso respiro, nello stesso tempo, and hundreds of similar phrases more. If someone cannot figure out the meaning from the components, they will be hopelessly lost anyway in any Italian text of more than three words. --Lambiam 19:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , not for every possible combination. Just for common collocations -- you know the kinds all of us found really useful when we were learning a foreign language. Convenience is also a part of user experience. Nobody wants to struggle with clicking around here. I think this overly rigid policy is one of the things which makes us a second choice (despite all the good stuff we have to offer). As for your examples, I would go with "nello stesso istante", "nello stesso tempo". Those are super useful. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 20:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete., Dentonius does not have any argument that follows from Wiktionary's rules; he chooses not to follow the social contract that the rest of us are bound to. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:56, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, clearly SoP. --Robbie SWE (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. We also have no entry for combinatorial explosion, the result of including all interesting colocations of words.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 09:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ultimateria (talk) 22:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. —Mahāgaja · talk 06:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk) 18:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)