Talk:ngah

RFV discussion: February–March 2020
Added by User:PlatuerGashaj, but not listed. &mdash; surjection &lang;?&rang; 09:45, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Any term on wiktionary can be included as long as it is in sufficient widespread use.
 * Ngah/Ngaj is in use among the entire Albanian speaking populations of Kosovo, Northern Albania (Tropoje), North Macedonia, and Montengro. (comment moved from RFD by &mdash; surjection &lang;?&rang;)
 * I see some uses, but my Albanian-deciphering skills are severely underdeveloped and I can’t figure out which ones are durably archived. Also, it seems that the verb has a wider range of meanings than listed. --Lambiam 10:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I see some uses, but my Albanian-deciphering skills are severely underdeveloped and I can’t figure out which ones are durably archived. Also, it seems that the verb has a wider range of meanings than listed. --Lambiam 10:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Albanian is a special case when it comes to the inclusion of words.

Unfortunately due to historical political circumstances, standard albanian excludes a lot of Northern albanian words, which are not part of the official latest revision of the albanian dictionary.

I am unable to provide official use of the word "ngaj" since government and media stick to standard albanian. However, for what it counts I can vouch that approximately 1.8 million people aroind me use the word.

Nevertheless, Orel himself derives Ngas from Ngaj, which itself derives from Ngah. The verb has developed several meanings. So I dont see a definite reason to delete the entry.
 * The person who nominated this has no clue about our Criteria for inclusion. We don't care what dictionaries do or don't say- we strictly go by usage. Also, we cover the entire existence of a language- not just modern times. Looking for ngah itself is hard because other languages flood the results. I don't know what other grammatical forms to search for, but, for instance this source has a lot of uses of ngaha, and this probably does, too. This shows what seems to be a use of ngah. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * RFV-kept, on the basis of Chuck's findings; unfortunately, we don't seem to have Albanian speakers willing to check. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)