Talk:nowaday

RFV discussion: November–December 2014
b.g.c has some hits, but I doubt they are for the sense given. Some are seemingly misconstruals of. — Keφr 08:13, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The adverbial usage is an archaic form of nowadays, and the only current usages I can find are in Indian English, plus Kurt Vonnegut in 1991. The OED has a number of archaic cites.
 * The adjective meaning contemporary seems to be in nowaday use. The OED has three cites from contemporary newspapers.    D b f  i  r  s   09:24, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

What about this? Does this warrant a separate noun sense, or an entry at nowaday's? — Keφr 10:18, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 2007, Ralph Krömer, Tool and Object: A History and Philosophy of Category Theory, Springer Science & Business Media ISBN 9783764375249, page 74
 * There, he distinguishes between représentations (in nowaday&#39;s language: group homomorphisms) and homomorphismes (in nowaday&#39;s language: continuous group homomorphisms; p.11).
 * By policy Wiktionary excludes English possessive forms, though I don't know whether there was ever a case of only a possessive being attestable.
 * The usage above is clearly of a non-native speaker or his editor and a mathematician yet. DCDuring TALK 11:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I can find usage, but not current, of nowaday as a noun as object of prepositions like of and to. The ones that are clearly native are pre-1930. It would get an "archaic" label.
 * I think nowaday is also an alternative form of nowadays as an adverb. DCDuring TALK 11:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I consider that an error by a non-native speaker; note the (German?) surname. Equinox ◑ 13:20, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * We've excluded attestable but rare errors before: WT:CFI says all words in all languages, not all mistakes in all languages. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * In which PoSes is nowaday an error? Has it always been so? Why do you say so? DCDuring TALK 23:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure which PoS Renard meant, but I assumed that the noun PoS cite (Keφr's 2007 one) was the erroneous one, unless we can find other cites of course. We do have today as a noun.  The adjective and adverb seem to be well-established in the OED.    D b f  i  r  s   09:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Some more instances of "nowaday's": One from a linguist(!): One in a thesaurus of sorts: One from an article by two authors, at least one of which is probably a native English speaker: Here it looks like a contraction of "nowaday is", but interesting nevertheless: — Keφr 10:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 1884, George Augustus H.F. Sala, Echoes of the year eighteen hundred and eighty-three
 * Do many people, I wonder, nowaday's read Stillingfleet's “Essay on Conversation?” There are some excellent bits of advice in it.
 * 1987, W.J.Aerts, "Appendix: The Latin-Greek Wordlist in MS 236 of the Municipal Library of Avranches, FOL. 97v", Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1986 edited by Reginald Allen Brown, Boydell & Brewer ISBN 9780851154763, page 69
 * If so, it should be noted that ουντυγχάνω does not exist in nowaday's South Italian, and, probably, did not either in medieval South Italian (though it is not excluded, of course, because during the presence of the Byzantines in (Southern) Italy a greater influence of the Byzantine koine of that time can be postulated).
 * 2006, Robert Hartwell Fiske, The Dictionary of Concise Writing: More Than 10,000 Alternatives to Wordy Phrases, Marion Street Press ISBN 9781933338125, page 361
 * the present-day: nowaday's; the present's; today's. ■ Discoveries, innovations, surprises, and complexities of the present-day South multiply beyond what it seemed possible for him to cover. Discoveries, innovations, surprises, and complexities of the today's South multiply beyond what it seemed possible for him to cover.
 * 2007, Zvi Nevo and Mark M. Levy, "Musculoskeletal", Stem Cell and Gene-Based Therapy: Frontiers in Regenerative Medicine, edited by Alexander Battler and Jonathan Leor, Springer Science & Business Media ISBN 9781846286766, page 156
 * As emerging from nowaday's hottest cell source, the stem cells in general and mesenchymal stem cell progenitors in particular, are enriched in bone marrow serving as a major vital fountain for progenitor cells of both tissues, cartilage and bone.
 * 2013, Martin Armstrong, Adrian Glynde, A&C Black ISBN 9781448210916
 * The Lord knows what's come over you, Adrian. Why can't you pull yourself together, man? You never used to be like this. Being with you nowaday's as bad as being at a blooming funeral.
 * I've been looking at too many Google Books hits for nowaday and nowaday's. Nowaday's seems to be used most frequently not as a possessive of noun nowaday, but as an alternative form of adverb nowadays. Where it is used as a possessive it is invariably either in a work by an author who is probably not native, in a translated work (probably a non-native translator), or in technical literature with the author not determinable (probably not native). DCDuring TALK 15:54, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I think this is cited in all PoSes, including those not originally challenged.
 * Nowaday is, by my lights, a better form than nowadays or nowadays for adjective use, and seems to be more commonly used, except by apparently non-native speakers, than nowadays. DCDuring TALK 16:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

The nominated sense passed, some were even added. Thank you, DCDuring. — Keφr 21:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)