Talk:oat

Request for verification
UK sense just added by anon, slang for "sex." -- WikiPedant 00:50, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd assume this is related to the expression "sowing own's oats" (or "wild oats", etc.). I'm not sure it has this meaning outside of the expression. --EncycloPetey 02:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Total agreement - sense should be removed. SemperBlotto 07:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Deleted. Equinox ◑ 19:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Etymology
Cognate with West Frisian OAT[8], Dutch OOT[8] - Dutch regional (West Flemish) ATE, OTE , (Zeeland) ŌTŌ , ŌŌTE, all in sense (‘wild oat’): (O.E.D); and Frisian OAT<English OAT; all of which, however, may be borrowed from English. There may be a possibility of a pre-Germanic origin[3], but with a similar sense[7]. Compare also Estonian OAD[4] (broad bean). Not to be connected with Welsh and Breton ĪD[2] (corn), (unless related to Scots Gaelic AD[3]); nor with Icelandic ÆTI[3], (an eatable). Dr. Skeat compares Norwegian EITEL[6], (a gland, knot, nodule); Icelandic EITILL[6], (nodule in stone); Russian IADRO[5], (kernel, ball); and lastly, but not least: Greek ṎIDOS[7], (swelling); mostly from Proto-Indo-European or earlier root *EID[6]. This root and that of the Estonian OAD (broad bean) ultimately answer to pre-historic √2Dh2R (ADhAR){11th February 2019} (to be wide, swell)[6]. Andrew H. Gray 10:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC) Andrew (talk) It must be understood that fossil vocabulary is still possible in the Nordic areas due to the proximity to Lapland whose dialects once covered Scandinavia. Therefore the presence of apparent related semanitics is not sufficient basis to assume a Germanic origin. Amended: Andrew H. Gray 12:44, 6 November 2017 (UTC) Andrew (talk)

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods. '2' stands for the laryngeal that takes the place of the 'ā' and 'a' that are missing. √ means original or earliest root. Look at the Old Turkish word OT. It means simply grass. The Uygur dialect calls it OOT, and this is in form and meaning the same like OAT. Isn't it? A word with an uncertain etymology could be explained like that, maybe.--UzunbacakAdem (talk) 13:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * That is a "cool" etymology. I can only suggest that you sign up for Academia and if you are so inclined to subscribe to the Premium stage (that I cannot do, since I have no online payment facilities) and download the papers on "GERMANIC SUBSTRATES", because I cannot find any for OAT.  There needs to be cognates in Welsh or Cornish, or from another Celtic dialect in Britain in order to link such a lexeme with a totally different language family as in Turkic; but there could be a remote connection in Bronze Age times with Welsh ĪD (corn) and ĀD in Gaelic.  Any substrate link would have to be Pre-Celtic and the suggested semantic roots in the main entry page and that of mine (above) would be quite irrelevant.  Andrew H. Gray 17:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Andrew (talk)