Talk:octaginta

@J3133 Yes, the descendants are correct. As with other numerals ending in -aginta, most of Romance reflects an early shortening to -anta (in this case *octanta, which may well be attested). The exception here is Ibero-Romance, which reflects /-aːˈɡintaː/ > */-aˈ(j)enta/, etc. Nicodene (talk) 13:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * : Did you intentionally not place Norman and Walloon under Old French? J3133 (talk) 15:17, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also the Modern (obsolete) and Middle French form huictante and Old French uctante have a c. J3133 (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * My question here is whether they are inherited or borrowed forms, or partly both. J3133 (talk) 04:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @J3133 Sorry for the late reply. The way that you have done it is, to the best of my knowledge, absolutely correct. There is a ⟨c⟩ in forms like, yes, but it is most likely simply another of the many silent letters that were added in honour of Latin (like the ⟨g⟩ of or the misguided ⟨ç⟩ of ), rather than the written representation of an actual /k/, such as the one that  most certainly has. Nicodene (talk) 19:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you moved oictante, oyctante, and uctante to the inherited forms; I listed them as borrowings, as they are under octante—not uitante—in the Dictionnaire étymologique de l’ancien français. The Anglo-Norman Dictionary has more forms: should they be added? Also, my question about Norman and Walloon stands. J3133 (talk) 05:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @J3133 I think whether a form begins with oct- or not seems a good criterion for sifting out the borrowings, since it's doubtful that spellings like  do not represent inherited vowel outcomes. Conversely, I'm not aware of any Oïl language having an outcome like /o/ or /ɔ/ for Latin [ɔk(t)], so any Old French form with oct- seems certainly borrowed to me, or latinized to the point that it might as well be regarded as a borrowing. I suppose we could always put all of these forms together, as inherited, and simply add a note like 'certain forms reflect Latin influence, some stronger than others'. And yes, we can add other forms mentioned by the online Anglo-Norman dictionary.
 * The last time that I had visited this page, I had yet to really decide whether Old French should stand narrowly for Old Francien (i.e. the dialect around Paris) or more broadly for Old Oïl in general. I've since come to include Old Norman and Picard under Old French but remain undecided about the other Oïl varieties. Nicodene (talk) 08:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * : I have added the Anglo-Norman forms under Old French (as we consider it a variety thereof), but you are free to make changes as you see fit. J3133 (talk) 08:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)