Talk:pack a punch

Also packs a real punch
Another similar idiom is packs a real punch.


 * That is just pack a punch + real I think. ---&gt; Tooironic 08:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

"really packs a punch" would be a variation. 71.66.97.228 20:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Also "packs"
packs a punch is also widely used. 71.66.97.228 07:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. ---&gt; Tooironic 08:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Also packs a wallop
Another similar idiom: packs a wallop. 71.66.97.228 20:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

RFV discussion
Rfv-sense: "To throw a strong punch when fighting". I have added a sense: "To be capable of throwing a strong punch". I thought the two citations provided were fairly clear in supporting the capability aspect of the sense and not the instance aspect, but I've learned to be cautious about universalizing my personal judgments.

I have also added the "capability" aspect to the figurative sense. pack does not seem to frequently have this "capability" aspect with other objective complements (except wallop) (pack a wallop), but potentially has it with a variety of nouns such as "surprise", "reward", etc. DCDuring TALK 11:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

We lack throw a punch, which is the prototype for an idiomatic construction allowing various hyponyms of punch. DCDuring TALK 11:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete As the original page creator, I completely agree with the changes that have been made. Delete my first definition, and keep DCDuring's replacement. I also agree that the idiomatic "throw a punch" needs its own entry. Ackatsis 04:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Sense removed, per Ackatsis. —Ruakh TALK 14:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)