Talk:pen-

RFV discussion: January–February 2018
None of the supposed derived terms (peninsula, penultimate, penumbra, peneplain) actually are. Any words that are actually formed with this prefix? DTLHS (talk) 02:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Nope. Delete that shit. (But: "By Tre Pol and Pen / Shall ye know all Cornishmen.") Equinox ◑ 02:21, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * If you delete this, remember to take out pene- as well. Kiwima (talk) 02:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * What about penannular? Can anyone find a Latin predecessor? DCDuring (talk) 13:43, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd be surprised. I don't find any evidence of a 🇨🇬 on GB. Still, if is the only word really using, I don't think that entry is needed. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 21:00, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * and John Cross (talk) 06:40, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Those are hyphenated compounds, with the first part being the word pen, not a prefix. Unless we're talking about an "almost-tailed" treeshrew, those have nothing to do with the challenged prefix (the same goes for unhyphenated penknife and penlight).
 * In all of the examples given, the actual morpheme is, which went into Latin compounds that were borrowed whole into English. It wasn't used as a prefix in English to add the meaning of "almost" to another word. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * penannular and peneplain don't exist in Latin. There's a 🇨🇬 but it's 1) more recent than the English term (coined in 1889?) 2) about something else (a taxonomic name?) 3) not the right gender. penultimate can't be directly borrowed from 🇨🇬, the suffix isn't right (although the solution is almost certainly not pen- + ultimate). --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 15:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Are we really ready to fail this? We have two words, and . We only need a third. Kiwima (talk) 04:12, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The second one is for the main form, . The entry claimed that this form is used before a vowel, but the only other examples with a vowel I can find are nonces like peneomnipotent, which break that rule and use the main form. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 05:52, 22 February 2018 (UTC)