Talk:pendant ce temps-là

pendant ce temps-là
looks SOP to me --Rockpilot 14:43, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * So it means "during this time there"? —Stephen (Talk) 16:23, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Best to avoid translating SoP. For example the French term for red box is boîte rouge, and it doesn't mean 'box red' but that doesn't mean that therefore it's includable. For this one, yeah it's SoP and the definition isn't really right, it really means 'during this time' rather than 'meanwhile', though if you take 'meanwhile' to mean 'during a given time' I suppose they could be equivalent, hence both correct. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:37, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Kinda, it does mean "during this time there". Having thought more, we are missing a French entry for -là (and -ci) which would be very useful. I'll investimagate. --Rockpilot 19:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * boîte rouge is truly SoP and even the most amateur French student would make "red box" of it, and not "box red". The SoP translation of boîte rouge is "red box". This is not comparable to an SoP translation of pendant ce temps-là, which will not yield the correct meaning no matter how diddle with the word order. SoP means that if you translate the phrase word-by-word into English, then a reasonable English-speaker should be able to get the meaning from it. Nobody would be able to turn "during this time there" into meanwhile or in the mean time. —Stephen (Talk) 12:08, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In reponse to your question, yes it means "during this time there". Mglovesfun (talk) 15:27, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * or "during that time". Seems fairly SoP to me. Fugyoo 19:07, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * FWIW, in terms of numbers, on Google Books this gets 266 000 hits, "durant ce temps-là" gets 18 000, much less but still a heck of a lot, "pendant ce moment-là" 399 hits. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The common phrase is pendant ce temps. pendant ce temps-là is a familiar variant. I think that both are set phrases worth inclusion, despite the fact that they can be understood easily. Otherwise, where would you explain what I just explained? Lmaltier 17:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per Mglovesfun. — Ungoliant (Falai) 03:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)