Talk:persecatus

Latin "dissected"
Similar to above. The proper past passive participle is. Does exist and if so when did it come into existence? Benwing2 (talk) 05:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Quote from An Introduction to Vulgar Latin: “In the first conjugation -ātus was preserved and was extended to all verbs: [...] sectus > secatus”. --Lambiam 14:04, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * @Lambiam Sure; you can see this in the Romance languages. But this doesn't mean that such words are necessarily attested in *Latin* texts, and even if they are, I'd like to indicate what era to make clear this isn't Classical. Benwing2 (talk) 04:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that the quoted source puts asterisks in front of some forms, but not secatus, strongly suggests that the latter is attested in Vulgar Latin. This does not imply that this extends to persecātus, of course. All we know is that any attestations are unlikely to be Classical Latin. --Lambiam 08:42, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Georges: "Perf. im Vulgärlat. auch secavi, wov. secarunt, Corp. inscr. Lat. 6, 30112: secarit, Serv. Verg. Aen. 5, 2: Partiz. Fut. Akt. secaturus, Colum. 5, 9, 2.: Partiz. Perf. Pass. secatus, Corp. inscr. Lat. 5, 5049, 12. de Rosci inscr. Christ. Vol. I. p. 265. Vulg. 4. Esdr. 4, 32. Commodian. apol. 514 (510)." But that's secare and secatus, not persecatus.


 * All I can find so far is a mention in Joseph D. Lesser's 2018 Latin / English Dictionary (ISBN 9783965085084), which I don't know the reliability of: "perseco, persecare, persecavi, persecatus [V (1st) TRANS] -- dissect; cut up". And then this:
 * 1838, Wilhelm Küpper, Sectionis caesareae nuper in clinico nostro obstetricio felici cum eventu institutae historia: Diss. inaug.: cum tab. lith. II, page 8:
 * scalpello digito sinistrae duce, singula strata caute dissecavit, quae semel persecata utrinque statim recesserunt. Primum quum totus uteri paries anterior, qui dodrantem pollicis crassitudine aequabat, hoc modo in superiori vulneris angulo esset persecatus, vasa uterina, nonnullis arteriis laesis,
 * A lot of scannos for make finding any other examples difficult. - -sche (discuss) 21:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * RFV-failed, but if someone mounted a dedicated search or knew of better corpora to search, they might be able to find two more examples. - -sche (discuss) 20:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)