Talk:petitio principii

this is the best. The link to "From latin, petitio principii" links back to this page, a rather circular form of programming logic =)
 * It actually links to the Latin section, but since there isn't one, it defaults to the top of the page, which is where you started. If someone adds a Latin section the link becomes functional, otherwise it should perhaps be changed to petitio: principii: . Mglovesfun (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

copied from Tea room Dec 2013
This is the basis for the term beg the question. On what senses of its component terms does this depend for its meaning? Was it an opaque idiom in its use in classical rhetoric in Latin? DCDuring TALK 2:57 am, 8 December 2013, Sunday (10 months, 9 days ago) (UTC+0) As best I can determine: petitio (“a laying claim to [followed by genitive]”) + principii, singular genitive of principium. But the sense of principium eludes me. The classical senses don't fit the supposed meaning very well, nor is any other relevant meaning in my Late Latin glossary. Is it Medieval Latin? Or is it the classical Latin sense of "foundation", which Lewis and Short say is only in the plural. Our entry at principium departs from Lewis and Short. DCDuring TALK 3:15 am, 8 December 2013, Sunday (10 months, 9 days ago) (UTC+0)
 * [copied by]&mdash; Saltmarsh απάντηση 06:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC)