Talk:physical fitness

physical fitness
Sum of parts? ---&#62; Tooironic 00:25, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably. Cf. physical exercise, mental fitness (for a job etc.). Equinox ◑ 00:29, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. delete. SemperBlotto 08:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete (physical sense #1, means 'of the body'). Definition is also inaccurate. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There may be a definition out there worth having for this term, but the current version isn't it. Delete. --EncycloPetey 04:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a set term, used a lot in the military and the definition was bad so I changed it to reflect the idiomatic sense and not the incorrect sop sense it had. It now states "A measure of the current level of strength and endurance of a person based on statistics of their ability for a specific task, sport, or in general" which is what it is, people are judged on their physical fitness, for a powerlifter its his ability to lift amounts of weight, for a marine it means to meet the minimum requirements for his position, for a laymen it means to maintain himself in good health. This is a very hard to translate term i might add so a translations section would be very useful here.Lucifer 10:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Is physical fitness 'a measure'? In what way? I'd find it hard to use it that way in a sentence. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "did he pass physical fitness? What's his PT score? How is his physical fitness? Does her physical fitness measure up?"
 * None of those are referring to a measure. "Did he pass English?" does not make English a "measure".  "How is his algebra?" does not make algebra a "measure".  Physical fitness is the state of one's fitness in physical terms.  Yes, it can be measured, but is not itself a measure. --EncycloPetey 15:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Deleted. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 23:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I realize that I'm too late here ... I never saw the wiktionary meaning so I don't know if it was a good one or not but here is the wikipedia def:
 * In current contexts, physical fitness is considered a measure of the body’s ability to function efficiently and effectively in work and leisure activities, to be healthy, to resist hypokinetic diseases, and to meet emergency situations.

I have to chime in as a vet and agree that it is a well used phrase in the military. So with that, maybe someone can write a definition that will satisfy those here ... or just use the one from wikipedia! --AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal! 00:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "In current contexts, physical fitness is considered a measure of the body’s ability to..." isn't a definition of physical fitness any more than "High income is considered a measure of success in life" is of high income. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 16:44, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Let me restate that so it's clear. The definition comes AFTER the word fitness ... Thus
 * physical fitness - is considered a measure of the body’s ability to function efficiently and effectively in work and leisure activities, to be healthy, to resist hypokinetic diseases, and to meet emergency situations.
 * This lines up with the definition from the old President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports (1971): the ability to carry out daily tasks with vigor and alertness, without undue fatigue and with ample energy to enjoy leisure-time pursuits and to meet unforeseen emergencies from "Physical Activity, Exercise, and Physical Fitness: Definitions and Distinctions for Health-Related Research", Public Health Reports, 1985 ... The article also states: Physical fitness is a set of attributes that are either health- or skill-related. The degree to which people have these attributes can be measured with specific tests. (emphasis mine)
 * Now let's back up and define measure ... def #9 An indicator; Something used to assess some property.
 * ''The average price of basic household goods is a measure for inflation.
 * Honesty is the true measure of a man.
 * Let's play substitute: Physical Fitness is a measure of condition or fettle. ... Or to make it long-winded ... Physical Fitness is a measure of the body’s ability to function efficiently and effectively in work and leisure activities ... blah, blah, blah.


 * You don't like the word measure ... not a problem ... the Army's Field Manual (FM) definition doesn't specifically use the word measure.
 * In US Army physical fitness is defined in The TRADOC Standardized PT Guide (BCT) as the ability to effectively function in work, training and other activities while maintaining optimal health and well-being. Standardized PT contains three interrelated components: strength, endurance and mobility. (PT stands for physical training and is of course, measured ... twice a year. Thus, physical fitness is a measure in the Army.)
 * FM 21-20, PHYSICAL FITNESS TRAINING (1998) ... Physical fitness is the ability to function effectively in physical work, training, and other activities and still have enough energy left over to handle any emergencies which may arise.
 * Is it really hard to find a definition? As I said, if you don't like the word measure, then take the FM definition and reference the FM as the source. Badda boom ... there you go. --AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal! 03:42, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * @AnWulf, no finding a definition isn't difficult, it's the validity of the term which has been disputed. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In my mind, there is no dispute that physical fitness is a valid term. Sooth, I don't really see how one can dispute whether it is a valid term or not. If nothing else, the fact that the US Army defines and uses it as a term gives it validity. However, it's not limited to the Army. It is in widespread use. When the two words are benoted asunder, they can hav separate meaning ... This is a physical world. ... He had a year in which to establish his fitness for the office. ... But when put together, physical fitness has a clear meaning.
 * Just goes to show, everyone isn't you. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What it shows is that the position that physical fitness is not a term is indefensible. --AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal! 16:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)