Talk:pillar of the community

pillar of the community
Probably just pillar + of + the + community. Not particularly set as a phrase. Can be replaced by "pillar of society", "pillar of the city", etc. No hits on OneLook. ---&#62; Tooironic 05:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say we need another, figurative sense for "pillar". --Hekaheka 05:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Or is this use of pillar: a "live metaphor"? DCDuring TALK 09:48, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added the two missing senses. ---&#62; Tooironic 12:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The new senses look good. I don't see any sense to the RfDed term that has meaning beyond the SoP sense. DCDuring TALK 23:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a common idiomatic phrase meaning an informal leader, it has nothing to do with the marble columns of a greco-roman building.Westernstag 03:09, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that the figurative sense is added to pillar, I don't see how we can prove this is not SoP. ---&#62; Tooironic 06:13, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * @Westernmark. What is the evidence that it is idiomatic? I stipulate that it may be more common than phrases like "red car" and agree that it doesn't have the straw-man definition that you suggest. The implication of your line of reasoning would be that we should have all attestable phrases whose component words are polysemic. Since the polysemy of a word itself seems to depend greatly on the patience, care, and analytical mindset of those who attest to and author definitions, very few words indeed would fail to be polysemic. DCDuring TALK 17:32, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No strong feelings. --Mglovesfun (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per discussion above; unique definition of pillar. bd2412 T 05:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. The term 'pillar of the community' is a common expression. --Bunnyboi 22:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 23:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. SOP. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 22:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 21:05, 12 August 2012 (UTC)