Talk:pitää huolta

RFV discussion: April–June 2023
Finnish. Rfv-sense: "to mind". Added by. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 17:11, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Added usex. --Hekaheka (talk) 10:41, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that is just like . That is "to mind one's own business", but that doesn't mean can mean "to mind", similar to how  doesn't mean  can be translated as "to lose". &mdash; S URJECTION  / T / C / L / 10:50, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think all redundancy is bad. Lets's compare to the treatment of the similar English phrase. Under  we have this definition:
 * 7. (now rare except in phrases) To pay attention to, in the sense of occupying one's mind with, to heed. [from 15th c.]
 * You should mind your own business.
 * And then, of course, there's the article .
 * If anything, I might challenge the idiomaticity of (also my creation). Instead of pitää huolta one might use the verbs  and, maybe others. --Hekaheka (talk) 19:52, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redundancy is bad when it gives the wrong information. I cannot translate "do you mind if I take one" as "*pidätkö huolta jos otan yhden". I don't think there is any case where "pitää huolta" can be translated as "to mind" outside of this one expression, so we should document it under the expression, not as a sense "to mind", since that is simply wrong. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 17:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV-deleted &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)