Talk:politieker

Are you positive that the -er in this word corresponds to a Dutch suffix? I suspect this could as well be the masculine nominative singular ending of the German strong declension replacing -us in Latin politicus. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  14:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, German Wiktionary had a synchronic derivation Politik + -er, so I based it on that. I'm not entirely certain, no. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 21:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * is replaced by, so (adj.) would give  and as strong masc. nom. sg. politischer, which is different from . Replacing  by  or adding -er to another term makes more sense: (*)politicus (subst.) + -er or Politik + -er -- cp. , from  or / (subst.). --Tybete (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Etymologische Wörterbuch des Deutschen states that Politiker comes from Latin politicus (so not Politik + -er), but doesn't go into greater detail, and both that dictionary and Kluge state politisch derives from (Middle) French. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pfeifer's Etymologisches Wörterbuch des Deutschen at DWDS gives a detail: "mlat. politicus. Substantivierung". That is, comes from  (subst.). And obviously  was replaced by  (substantive-forming suffix), as it's ein Politiker / der Politiker and not *ein Politiker / der Politike.
 * Pfeifer says something similar about the adjective, but that doesn't really matter here, as it's: Latin > (sometimes via some French -ique >) . So with strong masc. nom. sg. of an adjective you would get *ein Politischer / der Politische. --Tybete (talk) 13:40, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see. So you'd suggest to keep the -er in this etymology? Added Latin and Ancient Greek to the etymology of this entry. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying that it's 'obviously' the substantive-forming suffix -er, which also exists in Dutch and Low Saxon and even in English, and not the High German adjective ending. As for the entry I don't really care. --Tybete (talk) 13:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)